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Title: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: Kaise123 on March 25, 2013, 09:54:40 AM
KCv2 Official Rules
A central location for all rules on KCv2
Last updated by Kaise123 on the 12th of June 2013 Reason: God Item rules



It has come to my attention that the official rules are not in one central location and may be confusing for some users to locate. I will attempt to go over all the rules here, Although many of them are common sense.



Global Rules  Apply all over the server, no matter who you are or where you are




Main World Rules  Apply only on the main world, And the related End and Nether worlds (W:W, W:N, W:E)


'Hacking' Clients/Mods clients that are generally created for griefing and or 'hacking' a server ARE permitted here, But are not recommended. You are permitted to use any of the features of the client that do not disturb other users of the server (So you may use things like nofall, fly, etc). If you are found to be using features such as force field, or anything that obviously impacts the server in a negative way, you will be banned.

You are welcome to use most mods in this world such as fly, minimap mods, etc. If your not sure about a particular mod then feel free to ask a mod or on the forums.

NEW! Information about God Items and their usage/sale in the Main World:

There has been a lot of confusion regarding the sale and use of God items legally on the server, and this is intended to clear that up a bit. The rules for God items are as follows

The new pricing for God Items (As of 29/09/2013):

Leggings, Helmet, Boots: $85,000ea
Chestplate: $100,000ea
Swords and Axes: $75,000ea
Pickaxes, Spades, Hoes: $25,000ea
Misc god items ('Pimp sticks' etc): $5,000ea



Survival World Rules  Apply only on the Survival world, And the related End and Nether worlds when added (Currently only W:S, W:S-Nether)

NOTE: Griefing IS allowed here. This is a factions survival world, please learn how to use a faction or keep your base a secret!

'Hacking' Clients/Mods clients that are generally created for griefing and or 'hacking' a server ARE NOT permitted here. Under no circumstances can any mods be used that would give you an unfair advantage over other players. Any use of such modifications will result in a temp ban or ban.

Most mods are not allowed here. However you can use Rei's Minimap (Entity radar is allowed).

NEW! Information about God Items and their usage/sale in the Survival World:

There has been a lot of confusion regarding the sale and use of God items legally on the server, and this is intended to clear that up a bit.
In the Survival World, The sale, Use, distribution, anything to do with god items whatsoever is prohibited. If you happen to somehow get your God items into Survival, You are not permitted to keep them and they will be taken by force if you refuse to destroy/give them up. Sr. Staff members MAY use the /kill command from console to kill a player in order to get their God items, If they will not give them any other way.




As an extra note on PVP:

I have seen MANY people both on the server, here on the forums and on Skype complaining about people who have asked to PvP and said they will return the items.

While it would be nice if everyone in the world was honest, That is simply not true, Especially on the Internet. If some stranger asked to borrow your car, Would you let them? No. The same goes for PvP, If somebody tells you that they will return your items after the PvP then it's up to you to continue. HOWEVER, there are no server rules that say they are required to return the items, And it's near impossible to enforce such a rule.

From here on in, If you agree to PvP with someone and that you/they will give eachothers items back, That's totally up to you. But we will not return your items if they don't return them, Nor will we punish the person for not returning them. It's your responsibility what you do with your items, So put them in a protected chest or something, Why take the risk?

Quote from me detailing the solution:
Quote from: Kaise123 on January 25, 2013, 06:17:58 PM
I'm sorry to say this, But it was your choice to turn your PvP on, And other players should NEVER be trusted. It's impossible to enforce and it should be your own responsibility to look after your items. If you are PvPing for fun NEVER trust a player to give your things back. If someone says this, Then we are not going to give your things back. If you want to PvP and keep your items, STORE THEM IN A PROTECTED CHEST.

If I've missed something, please let me know below.[/list]
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules
Post by: ReconWhale on March 25, 2013, 02:41:05 PM
Thanks :)
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules
Post by: Kaise123 on March 26, 2013, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: ReconWhale on March 25, 2013, 02:41:05 PM
Thanks :)


No probs
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules
Post by: Jizomeo on March 26, 2013, 12:17:36 PM
You forgot  No X-Ray and  No Hackes.
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules
Post by: Kaise123 on March 26, 2013, 02:08:30 PM
Quote from: Jizomeo on March 26, 2013, 12:17:36 PM
You forgot  No X-Ray and  No Hackes.

Xray doesn't work on the server, And Hacking is pretty obvious. I suppose I could add it nonetheless
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules
Post by: ParagonGX on March 26, 2013, 10:52:52 PM
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Xray doesn't work on the server, And Hacking is pretty obvious. I suppose I could add it nonetheless
It would depend if the player was using a x-ray texture pack. There is no way of finding out if they're using one, unless you see a person looking suspiciously into the ground and digging random straight tunnels leading to precious ores
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules
Post by: Kaise123 on March 27, 2013, 02:41:53 PM
Quote from: .:B.E.A.S.T:. on March 26, 2013, 10:52:52 PM
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Xray doesn't work on the server, And Hacking is pretty obvious. I suppose I could add it nonetheless
It would depend if the player was using a x-ray texture pack. There is no way of finding out if they're using one, unless you see a person looking suspiciously into the ground and digging random straight tunnels leading to precious ores


I was actually incorrect as for some reason the Orebfuscator was not enabled. However, When I work out why it's not working no kinds of Xray will work on the server (Xray texture pack, Mod, Ore finders etc)
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules
Post by: Michael Bublé on April 16, 2013, 11:03:02 AM
My experience with orebusfacator was mostly bad. It would lag the server and crash it and render distance suffered greatly.
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules
Post by: Kaise123 on April 16, 2013, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: MichaelBuble on April 16, 2013, 11:03:02 AM
My experience with orebusfacator was mostly bad. It would lag the server and crash it and render distance suffered greatly.

Spigot has a built in fork of Orebfuscator which seems to work fine.
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: Kaise123 on June 12, 2013, 02:59:54 PM
Added to the OP:

There has been a lot of confusion regarding the sale and use of God items legally on the server, and this is intended to clear that up a bit. The rules for God items are as follows

The prices for God Items to buy are:
Leggings, Helmet, Boots: $8,500ea
Chestplate: $10,000ea
Swords and Axes: $10,000ea
Pickaxes, Spades, Hoes: $7,000ea
Misc god items ('Pimp sticks' etc): $5,000ea
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: karathorhikari on July 17, 2013, 02:00:26 PM
What's the situation with WE?
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: iTroll on July 17, 2013, 04:50:01 PM
Quote from: karathorhikari on July 17, 2013, 02:00:26 PM
What's the situation with WE?
I don't believe you have access to WE in the first place? Well for elites or higher, blocks changed in a single edit should be limited (so server resources aren't all consumed which would crash the server). WE'd blocks can't be used for the advantage of another player (such as placing 5000 diamond blocks unprotected for a friend). Also it can't be used to tamper with the builds of another player (GRIEFING) or for a pvp/killing advantage (like setting lava around a player).
Basically, you may only use it for assistance in building, etc.
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: karathorhikari on July 25, 2013, 02:19:20 PM
I'd like to add something to this. What are the disciplines for different rules being broken?
The reason I'm bringing this up is, I was killed today in W:W inside the actual spawn area after leaving survival. I wasn't running from pvp. In fact, I had already been killed and respawned. I was also unaware that pvp stayed disabled when returning to W:W. The one who killed me got off with nothing more than a warning. I believe this is clearly prohibited, and there is no excuse for not knowing spawn killing is against the rules. There was another incident like this in which I was lava killed in W:W, but I won't go into that now. I'm not even mad about being killed anymore, just baffled that nothing is ever done about it. There were also at least two mods online who witnessed the incidents via chat and commented on them both times, as well as both offenders admitting to what they had done as if nothing mattered. If the regulations for punishment could be more clearly outlined, I think victims would feel more justified by actions taken against offenders, and mods would follow more strict protocols.
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: LeonDaMundt on July 25, 2013, 10:52:07 PM
Quote from: karathorhikari on July 25, 2013, 02:19:20 PM
I'd like to add something to this. What are the disciplines for different rules being broken?
The reason I'm bringing this up is, I was killed today in W:W inside the actual spawn area after leaving survival. I wasn't running from pvp. In fact, I had already been killed and respawned. I was also unaware that pvp stayed disabled when returning to W:W. The one who killed me got off with nothing more than a warning. I believe this is clearly prohibited, and there is no excuse for not knowing spawn killing is against the rules. There was another incident like this in which I was lava killed in W:W, but I won't go into that now. I'm not even mad about being killed anymore, just baffled that nothing is ever done about it. There were also at least two mods online who witnessed the incidents via chat and commented on them both times, as well as both offenders admitting to what they had done as if nothing mattered. If the regulations for punishment could be more clearly outlined, I think victims would feel more justified by actions taken against offenders, and mods would follow more strict protocols.


Yeah, I was there as well but yes I warned him but I couldn't do anything else as I was on mobile and it was 7:38 AM in my place and I didn't sleep; so I had to sleep although I do remember telling the other mod to check that incident out, seems like he/she didn't. Anyways, I'll come in game and when you are online you are more than welcome to point me the spawn killer (as these things happen alot these days) and ill first give you all your stuff back from him and also I'm going to ask the other staff if any action can be taken against him. Sorry for the inconvenience that the other mod didnt help.
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: Kaise123 on July 26, 2013, 03:43:43 AM
Quote from: karathorhikari on July 25, 2013, 02:19:20 PM
I'd like to add something to this. What are the disciplines for different rules being broken?
The reason I'm bringing this up is, I was killed today in W:W inside the actual spawn area after leaving survival. I wasn't running from pvp. In fact, I had already been killed and respawned. I was also unaware that pvp stayed disabled when returning to W:W. The one who killed me got off with nothing more than a warning. I believe this is clearly prohibited, and there is no excuse for not knowing spawn killing is against the rules. There was another incident like this in which I was lava killed in W:W, but I won't go into that now. I'm not even mad about being killed anymore, just baffled that nothing is ever done about it. There were also at least two mods online who witnessed the incidents via chat and commented on them both times, as well as both offenders admitting to what they had done as if nothing mattered. If the regulations for punishment could be more clearly outlined, I think victims would feel more justified by actions taken against offenders, and mods would follow more strict protocols.


There are no punishments defined as it is completely up to the staff member at the time. They choose the punishment based not only on what they did but the way they react and their past reputation.

I don't think that people should be banned or any real consequence for spawn killing, unless they are doing it ALOT. However, You shouldn't be able to PvP at spawn anyway, So that needs to disabled.
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: karathorhikari on July 26, 2013, 10:40:51 PM
Quote from: Kaise123 on July 26, 2013, 03:43:43 AM
There are no punishments defined as it is completely up to the staff member at the time. They choose the punishment based not only on what they did but the way they react and their past reputation.

I don't think that people should be banned or any real consequence for spawn killing, unless they are doing it ALOT. However, You shouldn't be able to PvP at spawn anyway, So that needs to disabled.

That seems to be the case for everything. People do something here and there because they get away with it if it isn't done frequently. They get off with a warning, and nobody changes. They just wait until they think enough time has passed. Then they play dumb when they're told not to do it. As far as reputation is concerned, I don't care if one dude is a nice guy most of the time. A rule breaker should be treated as such. Actually, I expect better out of nice people. That's why it's worse when they do it. A rule needs to be enforced or it isn't a rule, and nobody should be bothered with telling people not to do it.

Mostly, I'm tired of complaining about things and being laughed at by the person I'm complaining about. Frankly, if something doesn't matter, tell me so that I can stop wasting my time bugging everyone about it.
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: Kaise123 on July 29, 2013, 08:16:38 AM
Quote from: karathorhikari on July 26, 2013, 10:40:51 PM
Quote from: Kaise123 on July 26, 2013, 03:43:43 AM
There are no punishments defined as it is completely up to the staff member at the time. They choose the punishment based not only on what they did but the way they react and their past reputation.

I don't think that people should be banned or any real consequence for spawn killing, unless they are doing it ALOT. However, You shouldn't be able to PvP at spawn anyway, So that needs to disabled.

That seems to be the case for everything. People do something here and there because they get away with it if it isn't done frequently. They get off with a warning, and nobody changes. They just wait until they think enough time has passed. Then they play dumb when they're told not to do it. As far as reputation is concerned, I don't care if one dude is a nice guy most of the time. A rule breaker should be treated as such. Actually, I expect better out of nice people. That's why it's worse when they do it. A rule needs to be enforced or it isn't a rule, and nobody should be bothered with telling people not to do it.

Mostly, I'm tired of complaining about things and being laughed at by the person I'm complaining about. Frankly, if something doesn't matter, tell me so that I can stop wasting my time bugging everyone about it.


I can see what you mean, But a lot of the times the things they do just aren't worth/aren't common enough for a ban, And generally you just have to be quietly tolerant to a certain extent. However, If you don't think that something is being dealt with in the correct manner, Please post it on the forums/email/Skype/PM me, And I'll make sure to look at it for you, And explain any reasons why a decision has been made. If something is really bothering you please formally report them :)
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: karathorhikari on August 03, 2013, 02:25:09 PM
Quote from: Kaise123 on July 29, 2013, 08:16:38 AM
I can see what you mean, But a lot of the times the things they do just aren't worth/aren't common enough for a ban, And generally you just have to be quietly tolerant to a certain extent. However, If you don't think that something is being dealt with in the correct manner, Please post it on the forums/email/Skype/PM me, And I'll make sure to look at it for you, And explain any reasons why a decision has been made. If something is really bothering you please formally report them :)
XD I don't agree with the tolerance part, but the rest is fair. I was expecting something because a mod was on both times, but I never did make a formal report. I think I sounded like a jerk, too... ^u^" Sorry about that. Thanks for all you input.
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: Kaise123 on September 29, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
As money is fairly easy to come by on the server, the prices for God items has been massively increased.

The new pricing for God Items (As of 29/09/2013):

Leggings, Helmet, Boots: $85,000ea
Chestplate: $100,000ea
Swords and Axes: $75,000ea
Pickaxes, Spades, Hoes: $25,000ea
Misc god items ('Pimp sticks' etc): $5,000ea
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: Deathdefyer99 on September 29, 2013, 11:15:17 PM
Quote from: Kaise123 on September 29, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
As money is fairly easy to come by on the server, the prices for God items has been massively increased.

The new pricing for God Items (As of 29/09/2013):

Leggings, Helmet, Boots: $85,000ea
Chestplate: $100,000ea
Swords and Axes: $75,000ea
Pickaxes, Spades, Hoes: $25,000ea
Misc god items ('Pimp sticks' etc): $5,000ea
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Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: 1bigdog on March 23, 2014, 01:33:02 AM
There is a glitch that has happened that when  i go to the survival world then go back to the main world by /spawn or /warp spawn it doesn't disable your pvp
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: Kaise123 on March 30, 2014, 10:39:41 PM
Quote from: 1bigdog on March 23, 2014, 01:33:02 AM
There is a glitch that has happened that when  i go to the survival world then go back to the main world by /spawn or /warp spawn it doesn't disable your pvp

I'm not sure that it ever has. It's set to disable it when you enter the Survival world and then takes the permission away to change back. Just be cautious and turn it back off when you go back to the main world
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: LyN on April 11, 2014, 08:22:40 AM
I might be confused on something, but does Lockette not work on the faction server?

LyN
Title: Re: [INFO] KCv2 Official Rules - UPDATED! Includes legislation on God items
Post by: baroompsycho on April 11, 2014, 08:26:37 AM
Lockette should only be working in the Main world since in the Faction world, people need to be able to raid each other after wrecking each other's bases haha! :)
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