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After debating with Kai, we are wondering if griefing should be allowed or not in the survival world. Vote in the poll your opinion.

Griefing is ALLOWED until this poll is closed.

Even though i don't like to grief much, it would actually be nice to be able to grief..

I don't like griefing so I pick NO GRIEFING.

Survival is totally different to bukkit minecraft. All items have to achieved legitimately and it takes time to gather enough material to build. Some players work very hard on gaining the items to build their creations, if they return to see that their creation which too them ages to build was destroyed, they will think that there is no point of playing in survival anymore. If grief were to be allowed in survival, players may join forces to make a grief group like Team Avo to especially target builds.

Quote from: ScS_Secret on February 18, 2013, 12:20:14 PM
Survival is totally different to bukkit minecraft. All items have to achieved legitimately and it takes time to gather enough material to build. Some players work very hard on gaining the items to build their creations, if they return to see that their creation which too them ages to build was destroyed, they will think that there is no point of playing in survival anymore. If grief were to be allowed in survival, players may join forces to make a grief group like Team Avo to especially target builds.

Ah but why build something you like in a faction world? 
There is a main world for a reason :P

Quote from: smoove on February 18, 2013, 12:30:40 PM

Quote from: ScS_Secret on February 18, 2013, 12:20:14 PM
Survival is totally different to bukkit minecraft. All items have to achieved legitimately and it takes time to gather enough material to build. Some players work very hard on gaining the items to build their creations, if they return to see that their creation which too them ages to build was destroyed, they will think that there is no point of playing in survival anymore. If grief were to be allowed in survival, players may join forces to make a grief group like Team Avo to especially target builds.

Ah but why build something you like in a faction world? 
There is a main world for a reason :P

There will be players who want to play survival and try to achieve the goal of gathering material and building creations legitimately in the survival world.

Quote from: ScS_Secret on February 18, 2013, 12:38:45 PM

Quote from: smoove on February 18, 2013, 12:30:40 PM

Quote from: ScS_Secret on February 18, 2013, 12:20:14 PM
Survival is totally different to bukkit minecraft. All items have to achieved legitimately and it takes time to gather enough material to build. Some players work very hard on gaining the items to build their creations, if they return to see that their creation which too them ages to build was destroyed, they will think that there is no point of playing in survival anymore. If grief were to be allowed in survival, players may join forces to make a grief group like Team Avo to especially target builds.

Ah but why build something you like in a faction world? 
There is a main world for a reason :P

There will be players who want to play survival and try to achieve the goal of gathering material and building creations legitimately in the survival world.

mhm

Quote from: ~The159Hunter on February 18, 2013, 12:43:40 PM

Quote from: ScS_Secret on February 18, 2013, 12:38:45 PM

Quote from: smoove on February 18, 2013, 12:30:40 PM

Quote from: ScS_Secret on February 18, 2013, 12:20:14 PM
Survival is totally different to bukkit minecraft. All items have to achieved legitimately and it takes time to gather enough material to build. Some players work very hard on gaining the items to build their creations, if they return to see that their creation which too them ages to build was destroyed, they will think that there is no point of playing in survival anymore. If grief were to be allowed in survival, players may join forces to make a grief group like Team Avo to especially target builds.

Ah but why build something you like in a faction world? 
There is a main world for a reason :P

There will be players who want to play survival and try to achieve the goal of gathering material and building creations legitimately in the survival world.

mhm

Yes but that will lead to a point of stupidity for creating it there.

But then again it is just a vote so it could lean to either side..

I voted Yes, just because with the faction's plugin, people always grief. I have never played on a faction Server/World where no one griefed when asked not too. If people want to build they can do it in Creative/Survival World. The Factions plugin promotes griefing, with raiding base's people would take everything Even the Wood used to build the home. I don't like griefing either, but with faction its integrated into the plugin. Faction plugin motivates player's to make the best faction, with the most power, so they cant be griefed and sadly motivates players to raid their opponents base and gain the spoils of war. That's why factions is so popular among Minecraft Servers.

I play on a survival/faction server that doesn't allow griefing and everything works fine. Factions are made for battling other factions not for griefing. I voted no because although most people like to grief, when they are griefed themselfs they go dont like it. And it could potentially make people start leaving. Thats just my view though

I do agree for griefing because it is a faction-survival world. I normally turn this down and say no, but if you think about it, survival is about...well...surviving. Anything will go if it's needed for one player to survive. So, saying somebody "griefed" a wooden house, for example, may need those supplies for their own house. Or, like in a war, there would be mass DeathMatch within each of the faction's member's homes, making it seem more "realistic (using the word loosely)." If griefing were allowed within the survival world, there would have to be some limitations to it, and it would have to have a new name instead of griefing.

Quote from: Hij on February 18, 2013, 03:17:54 PM
I do agree for griefing because it is a faction-survival world. I normally turn this down and say no, but if you think about it, survival is about...well...surviving. Anything will go if it's needed for one player to survive. So, saying somebody "griefed" a wooden house, for example, may need those supplies for their own house. Or, like in a war, there would be mass DeathMatch within each of the faction's member's homes, making it seem more "realistic (using the word loosely)." If griefing were allowed within the survival world, there would have to be some limitations to it, and it would have to have a new name instead of griefing.

^ Agree ^

Quote from: KrayzieTrini on February 18, 2013, 03:27:22 PM

Quote from: Hij on February 18, 2013, 03:17:54 PM
I do agree for griefing because it is a faction-survival world. I normally turn this down and say no, but if you think about it, survival is about...well...surviving. Anything will go if it's needed for one player to survive. So, saying somebody "griefed" a wooden house, for example, may need those supplies for their own house. Or, like in a war, there would be mass DeathMatch within each of the faction's member's homes, making it seem more "realistic (using the word loosely)." If griefing were allowed within the survival world, there would have to be some limitations to it, and it would have to have a new name instead of griefing.

^ Agree ^

I also agree.  :P

I voted yes because it's much easier to control then having protections, which defeats the purpose of factions/PvPing for faction power.

Many players on the server wanted factions, And I personally think it's kind of fun to have to guard your builds by being active and killing others, it adds another dimension of challenge to the server.

if people are worried about getting greifed this is where the factions would come in handy, because it acts like w.g but it can be used by any rank.. If somone raged because of greifing. it is simple to reply, you should have protected it with your faction

This is my opinion

Exactly. Factions acts as a kind of grief protection, As anyone who just came on as a team and tried to grief would actually have to invest time into grinding down opposing factions before griefing them... Which almost helps us as it's allowed and brings more players to the server.

I could vote yes to griefing but the only reason is, the faction protection doesnt protect tnt explosions so its easy to grief that way. I've had my house/faction griefed with tnt twice so that's why i was more swaying on the no side. But if that could be solved then i would vote yes :P

i must confess that the DBA has indeed found an easier way to grief, i personally attacked Wanyama's base using creepers, bonemeal, and flint and steal

and yes....

Jacques (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVW4fDOgah4#ws)

as he had said, i am ashamed and yet thrilled... MWHAHAH ;D

But anyway, i have, within my free time, been considering possibly creating a Technological Research and Development based section within the DBA and contemplating a means of it's swift existence and implication because adaption, although often gradual and unyielding, must within my understanding of the circumstances provided to us, ofcourse, by the destruction of our own base due to a particular vengeance raid (if you are reading this, then, my already overwhelming certainty concerning your own ability of self identification is indeed correct), must happen swiftly but not to swiftly because, like a black hole, whose creation is due to a star reaching its critical mass, would indeed collapse in on itself. but, alas, i cannot begin until next weekend due to school related things :P

p.s. The DBA will prevail. ;D

There is probably a way to combat that (Line house with obsidian bahaha). I think you can disable certain triggers. Just as long as nobody makes a wooden house they should be good.

the vote has closed.

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